I want this, but Mrs. O.C. ain't feelin' it. (De-Kinja'd Version)

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
07/11/2017 at 22:56 • Filed to: None

Ebay Item 291858576636
Porsche 356C Cabriolet 1965 Janis Joplin True Scale Miniatures 1:43

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DISCUSSION (35)

Honeybunchesofgoats > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/11/2017 at 23:03

$87.47? I like you, but for that price, I’d destroy a marriage just to say I did it.

Honeybunchesofgoats > Honeybunchesofgoats
07/11/2017 at 23:03

“Guess how much I paid to destroy a marriage.”

That bar net pays for itself. Any Oppos want to get on that?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Honeybunchesofgoats
07/11/2017 at 23:05

So buy it, have it shipped to me, and I’ll let you know if your plan works or not.

Honeybunchesofgoats > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/11/2017 at 23:07

Your confidence give me pause. There may be some sort of “love” or at least some sort of mutual arrangement for tax purposes. I only buy eBay items that come with a guaranteed destroyed life.

Coincidentally, my only eBay purchases are jaguar parts. Go figure.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Honeybunchesofgoats
07/11/2017 at 23:09

You should definitely send me that diecast Porsche. I will see that someone’s life is destroyed.

WilliamsSW > Honeybunchesofgoats
07/11/2017 at 23:10

I’m scratching my head right now, trying to figure out if I’m doing OC a favor (because cool car) or punishing him (because divorce) but I’m brain dead

Honeybunchesofgoats > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/11/2017 at 23:24

I’ll make you a deal. Tomorrow, at 9:00 AM, I will bid on that Porsche. If it goes for that price, I will buy it. But I expect some damage in my wake.

Kinja'd!!!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > WilliamsSW
07/11/2017 at 23:24

I just wish someone would buy it for me. :o(

RallyWrench > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/11/2017 at 23:38

I collect 1/43s (mostly Le Mans cars) and see this come up pretty regularly in my Porsche searches. I’ll keep an eye out for a deal on it. TSM is really high end, but I’ve scored a couple of them for under $30. Really, $87 for a little happiness on the shelf ain’t so bad. I couldn’t justify that much on a single 1/43, but there are much spendier ones out there. You should show her what the 1/18s of this car go for, makes this look a bargain.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Honeybunchesofgoats
07/12/2017 at 00:08

I can arrange it.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RallyWrench
07/12/2017 at 00:12

Janice Joplin’s Porsche just has wowness of coolness. I’m not a Porsche fan or even a Joplin fan, but I’m a fan of that car. What can I say? “Happiness on the shelf” sums it up.

Honeybunchesofgoats says he’s going to buy it for me on the condition that it wrecks my marriage, so if he does buy it, I’m going to have to come up with an appropriate rejoinder.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/12/2017 at 00:37

I saw an art Rolls the other day, couldn’t get a pic. It was a 60's Rolls sedan. I am just going to say it, I hate Joplin’s voice and I hate what they did to that car she had.

AuthiCooper1300 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/12/2017 at 07:05

I certainly don’t like Janis’ 356 that much, but a lot of silly things were done at that time. Poor Janis, poor Porsche.

However, if we are talking of special Porsches with unique musical... provenance, what about this 356 by Beutler, owned (among others) by Grace Slick?

There are better pictures and better descriptions of the car elsewhere, but feeling lazy today:

http://flatsixes.com/cars/porsche-356/the-coach-built-beutler-pursang-356a/

Frenchlicker > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/12/2017 at 08:06

I realize $100 isn’t bad for a good model. However I’m not a big fan of the Janis Joplin car and side with her.

Frenchlicker > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/12/2017 at 08:07

I realize $100 isn’t bad for a good model. However I’m not a big fan of the Janis Joplin car and side with her.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
07/12/2017 at 08:49

Well, I’m glad you got that off your chest.

I think I’ve only ever heard one Janice Joplin song, and I’m no particular fan of Porsches. I just have a thing for that particular car.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > AuthiCooper1300
07/12/2017 at 08:56

If I’m honest, that Beutler Porsche doesn’t do anything for me and I find its lines unattractive.

You’re the second Oppo to tell me they don’t like JJ’s Porsche, which is fine, because I do.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Frenchlicker
07/12/2017 at 09:00

Well, I like it. When I was a child, my stepfather was a fan and played one or more of her albums. So there is a relevance there to me, an iota of nostalgia. But at the bottom, I just think the car is cool. I am generally not much taken with one-off custom things, but I think that car does much to sum up the era and I just like it.

AuthiCooper1300 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/12/2017 at 09:06

Which is great. We don’t have to agree on everything, that’d be quite boring!

I don’t dislike Janis’ Porsche. It just does not rock my boat, so to speak. In fact I think it probably even looks cuter as a model than in the metal, at 1:1 scale.

I agree with you that the Beutler could be described as... uh, an acquired taste. I intended my posting as a comment of sorts, simultaneously, on rare vintage Porsches and rock and roll divas: there are plenty of cars I find extremely interesting but don’t particularly like, myself.

Let’s hope you get it!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > AuthiCooper1300
07/12/2017 at 09:29

I am at a loss to think of any other one-off cars owned by celebrities that do anything for me, though Elvis Presley’s Stutz Blackhawk is a curiosity to me in all of its Studebaker Hawk derivative, 455 Buick weirdness. But it’s only a curiosity and nothing I’d want to look at on a shelf.

Kinja'd!!!

AuthiCooper1300 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/12/2017 at 09:40

I do love the XJS Eventer by Lynx, particularly the ones built on pre-facelift cars. I understand Tina Turner used to have one.

Not as rare as the ones mentioned though.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > AuthiCooper1300
07/12/2017 at 09:42

Almost a shooting brake, isn’t it?

AuthiCooper1300 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/12/2017 at 09:50

I’d say yes.

Nowadays it is fashionable to say that shooting brakes can only be two-door estates/station wagons, but I’d say there can also be four-door ones - provided they are fast, interesting to look at and would have space for your imaginary Purdeys, setters and such.

I’d also say the Eventer looks nicer (or more elegant) than the XJS, but I may get shot or something.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > AuthiCooper1300
07/12/2017 at 09:54

The entire Jaguar “thing” is sort of tortured. They’re cramped and low and while I’ve only ever driven one, a gutless six-banger, Jaguars do seem to have a following. My favorite Jaguar:

Kinja'd!!!

AuthiCooper1300 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/12/2017 at 10:06

What we most tend to forget about is that for a long time Jaguars offered Aston/Ferrari looks and performance at what in comparison was a truly ridiculous price. Hence the fact that they were considered not exactly upper-crust. Only cads and gangsters bought them.

Some were (and are) gorgeous though, and that may be enough.

RallyWrench > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/12/2017 at 10:42

The car is an all time great piece of art, it’d be beautiful on a piece of canvas as well. The fact that the work flows around the body of a Porsche, and could have been seen on the streets (maybe even streets near you, no less!) makes it truly amazing. I love (most of) BMW’s Art Cars as well, this is in the same realm.

If Honeybunches gets it for you, I’m sure Mrs. O.C. will be game for a good dramatization. You do have a sweet van to live in!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > AuthiCooper1300
07/12/2017 at 10:49

Are you talking about 1936 to maybe 1950?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RallyWrench
07/12/2017 at 10:56

We had an interesting conversation about that just now. She is very sensitive to think that she might be perceived as some kind of domineering, repressive, controlling wife. I thought she didn’t want me to spend $100 on a trinket when what she was really thinking was, Why do you have to own so much crap?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RallyWrench
07/12/2017 at 10:58

But yes, the car has artistic value to me on an automotive level, on a purely artistic level, and on a socially iconic level, though the social relevance is more about the era than it is about Janice Joplin specifically. I was born in 1964 and Wiki says JJ was active 1962-70.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Honeybunchesofgoats
07/12/2017 at 11:02

I just had a conversation with my wife about this. I thought she was bothered by the expense when in fact, she was feeling like, Why do you have to own so much crap? What makes her chafe is the idea that you or I or anyone might perceive her as being domineering, demanding or controlling. “You want to buy this nice thing that you don’t even have anyplace to display. But I understand about you that you want to just sit there and stare at it.”

I love my wife and I love being married to her. 28 years. She has gently, over all these years, helped me be a better man.

AuthiCooper1300 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/12/2017 at 11:06

Up until the 60s was probably the period where that image was really associated with Jaguars. But in fact it went well into the 70s and probably even the 80s. Just watch any British thriller, both on film and TV and the dodgy characters always drive Jaguars. I suppose you have seen the Snatch - remember Vinnie Jones’ car?

Jaguars found some respectability when lots of Rolls-Royces ended up being bought by what the Brits considered “oil-money foreigners”. Suddenly Bentley and Jaguar were on the up, and you could see Jaguars being used for ministerial duties.

Even in Top Gear they used to joke about Jaguars being bought by types who are, well, a bit caddish. It will be forever part of the brand DNA, for better or worse.

(clip added a little later!)

Remember those US ads about “it’s good to be bad”?

Of course the image of Jaguar in the US has always been a bit different. Still, they offered incredible performance (and, sometimes, looks) at a very low price.

RallyWrench > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/12/2017 at 12:23

Believe me, I can see her point! My wife feels similarly on both counts. She rolls her eyes at my collecting, but knows how strongly I love racing history and particularly Le Mans, so it’s my little way to indulge in it since trips to Europe aren’t in the cards for us. I don’t spend a ton on it, and on the very rare occasion I do spend $100, it’s for four or five cars.

The “ why do you own so much crap ” question could rightfully be asked, but at least they’re small, my real projects are the ones that take up too much damn space! There are worse vices for a man to have, I suppose.

RallyWrench > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/12/2017 at 13:06

Perfect that you bring up the brevity of her career. My original reply with regard to the car as art got Kinja’d on mobile, but I had a line to the effect of “ the car was commissioned by an incredible young talent who burned brightly and briefly, adding to its legend. ” I grew up in a house with Janice in regular rotation on vinyl because my mom is a huge fan, so while I’ve never really listened to her of my own volition, I have an appreciation for her music.

The car absolutely speaks to the wild time it came from. Martini Racing had a couple of its Porsche 917s raced in “hippie” paint schemes, so there’s a further tie in to the idea of Art Car Porsches. So much was going on then, and not many physical objects represent a given time as well as its cars. So the confluence of Janice, a Porsche of all things, and an artist who captured the spirit of the time on it so perfectly (ashamed I don’t know their name offhand) gives it a real totemic quality. There’s a very good reason it went for nearly $2M at auction a couple of years ago, when the underlying car is worth no more than $150k. And that’s with reproduced paintwork!

Come to think of the model again, my mom is an art teacher and would probably love her own copy of it as well.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RallyWrench
07/12/2017 at 14:31

Totemic . Thank you for that word. Sums it up perfectly.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RallyWrench
07/12/2017 at 14:46

http://www.lifebuzz.com/joplins-porsche/